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030 Vodcast: How the structure of your neck affects you

030 Vodcast: How the structure of your neck affects you

By Jurmaine Health

Check out our vodcast on our facebook page tomorrow and follow us too! Learn how the structure of your neck affects you. Can your structure actually allow you to follow your coaches’ cues? Can your spine allow you to be in certain positions? Chiro pillows, do they work? Check out our vodcast tomorrow.

SHERMAIN [04:30]
Because there’ll be too much flexion in the pillows. Yeah, and you need you probably need a bit of extension in the curve. Kyphosis in the right angles in order to have good sleep. So a person might suffer from sleep hygiene issues just because of the shape of the spine, right? So you can change all sorts of pillows and that’s not going to be useful for you. Second one is secondly, we will be probably down the track, introduce some good sources and location of how to get good pillows, but not for today. So, because our light box is flickering we will use our very trusty hyperlinks and mobile phones to give us a flashlight to give you some to shed light on, 2 spines. So these are two spines.

SHERMAIN [06:17]
Yeah, just very tight, just very straight because they have got to organize their posture to fit the environment yeah. So your posture is fitting your environment, you’re going to have a lot of trouble, regardless of whether is it a uniform environment or is it a workforce environment, can you see that?
So this is one spine and this is another spine right. So what commonly is going to happen as well is that a person who has got these two will find themselves really tight in the neck over time. And if they’re tight all the time, largely it’s because they don’t have extension, or they are kept in extension all the time. Because they need to breathe, they feel the need to breathe. So where you’re going to get movement from, sometimes it’s not in the spine itself. ​

Dr Shermain Wong is a seasoned chiropractor with particular expertise in Sports Medicine and a passion for the benefits of in ‘Active Release Technique™ (an advanced Soft Tissue Technique developed by Chiropractors). She is professionally trained in ART and has a Masters in Clinical Chiropractic from RMIT University. Dr Wong has provided chiropractic and movement rehabilitation services at international sporting competitions, and provided rehabilitation and training for professional dancers, professional football players and professional athletes.

She can be found at https://www.jurmainehealth.com.au/dr-shermain-wong/

Episode 030: Vodcast How the structure of your neck affects you

Podcast brought to you by Jurmaine Health

SHERMAIN [00:01]

Hi guys, hello, how are you? We today what we want to do is to explain to you guys the importance of the shape of the spine.

JACKIE [00:12]

In this case we're talking about your cervical spine, your neck.

SHERMAIN [00:19]

Videocast is just a video because, in our podcast we have agreed to do that. So that's what we're gonna do today. What happens in some people�s spine is that sometimes if you do too much mobility drills, mobility drills are better than no mobility drills. At the same time, sometimes the spine is not the shape that we frequently think that it is in and a lot of coaches or trainers or anyone that tries to get you to do more mobility in the thoracic spine, the thing about mobility in the thoracic spine or cervical spine, especially things like extending your spine more it sometimes is what it does is, it compresses the spine together.

JACKIE [01:13]

Those little poking bits at the back. If you feel it running down your neck.

SHERMAIN [01:18]

As compared to having the vertebrae move on top of each other, it's not going to have a massive movement, you're not really think about massive movements, that's called dislocation.

JACKIE [01:27]

Or overload. That's right that's a surgical thing. But what you really want to do is that make sure that there's a bit of movement over, the glide.

SHERMAIN [01:39]

Sometimes that doesn't happen and I have seen coaches cueing, giving people cues like extend more, extend more, you have got to open up your chest more and the thing about this is that sometimes it's impossible to do so simply because of the shape of the spine. Now we are going to give you 2 shapes of spine. 2 cervical spines. The neck. Yep. One of them is mine.

JACKIE [02:12]

Both of them are not normal spines. Yeah. So we are going to give you examples of damaged spines. When I was talking about damaged clearly not again, not talking about like Shermain just said: dislocation or anything of the sort, nor are we talking about osteoarthritic changes or anything, we're just talking about the mechanics of the spine itself, and how it's actually sitting.

SHERMAIN [02:35]

It is more dysfunctional and damaged.

SHERMAIN [02:50]

Or whatever the case might be. So no, that's not what we wanted to show you. But what we want to show you is that there are spines that have lost their curve. And also that affects breathing, that affects, good lifting mechanics or sometimes running mechanics, sleeping as well. Sleeping is a big thing because what they will want to do then is to show this, breathe through their shoudlers and they want to go into extension as if they're gasping for air. Because the spine is so straight. People ask us Oh, why don't you sell chiro pillows? And I was like, well, we might introduce some in the future but we haven't found.

JACKIE [03:40]

There is no 1 pillow that fits all.

It is a perfect example when you've got a spine, you're talking about a neutral spine. That's great, the chiro pillow gonna fit perfectly, because you�ve got the curve to support it. But if you're looking at a spine like that, yeah. Yeah, we've got to see soon.

Regardless of which one if you're holding if and if you�ve got a spine like any of these here, a not going to be doing an chiro pillow is not going to do you any good at least not to begin with no if anything it's going to just be aggravating you are just going to try to sleep on it and be like, cannot sleep, not comfortable.

SHERMAIN [04:30]

Because there'll be too much flexion in the pillows. Yeah, and you need you probably need a bit of extension in the curve. Kyphosis in the right angles in order to have good sleep. So a person might suffer from sleep hygiene issues just because of the shape of the spine, right? So you can change all sorts of pillows and that's not going to be useful for you. Second one is secondly, we will be probably down the track, introduce some good sources and location of how to get good pillows, but not for today. So, because our light box is flickering we will use our very trusty hyperlinks and mobile phones to give us a flashlight to give you some to shed light on, 2 spines. So these are two spines.

JACKIE [05:33]

Yeah. So.

SHERMAIN [05:37]

So these is intro. Now these are two different people�s spines. Can you see that? So one of them has got angulations in reversal at the bottom and on the top. This one though has a straight really, really straight spine that is my X ray okay, so when that happens we normally notice as a that spine has suffered whiplash. And most probably multiple times as well.

JACKIE [06:08]

Or can also be the other one that I was just looking up entertainingly, is the military one. So where the military people hold their necks just very tight.

SHERMAIN [06:17]

Yeah, just very tight, just very straight because they have got to organize their posture to fit the environment yeah. So your posture is fitting your environment, you're going to have a lot of trouble, regardless of whether is it a uniform environment or is it a workforce environment, can you see that?

So this is one spine and this is another spine right. So what commonly is going to happen as well is that a person who has got these two will find themselves really tight in the neck over time. And if they're tight all the time, largely it's because they don't have extension, or they are kept in extension all the time. Because they need to breathe, they feel the need to breathe. So where you�re going to get movement from, sometimes it's not in the spine itself.

Okay, sometimes it�s not in the spine itself, but in the head, on top of here, in the head, instead of through the neck, right. So now let's say for a person, we are going to ask because, you need to get some mobility, you need to stretch you need to do this, you need to do that, usually is lateral flexion. Usually, yeah, lateral flexion or usually it's flexion. And is it better than nothing it is better than nothing but you're not articulating each of the individual vertebrae itself. So assuming that this person which is me actually there's the thoracic spine is dead straight too, which is true. Yeah. So, as a loss of the kyphosis curve, when that happens, then this person will be already be in extension and a person like that, who is already in an extension, but they are asking the person to do more mobility drills, meaning usually, more extension, the person can't go into further extension, it's impossible. Alright, so, the take home for you guys is to make sure that you are not doing excessive movement thinking that you need more of it. Sometimes you do need less of it, it really depends on how the shape of your spine is. It's like your musculature, what is doing your vital fitness really. How it's impacting on your nervous system and your breathing patterns and your sleep patterns. Alright.

JACKIE [08:57]

So, I think that we should know we did have an interesting one and entertaining. We were talking about when we saw those x rays, saying how a straight chiro will be treating that. Shermain was very entertained by me when I said that this is a classic chiro case. And this is a classic chiro fear mongering case. So clearly I'm a chiro. We're both chiros. So it's against my profession here. But I'm being honest, I'm trying to be brutally honest. There are a lot of chiros out there that will pretty much use those X ray films as selling techniques. And they�d be like, alright, he's a spine. This is what it is, this is how it looks. And then take their little spines their little examples whether they took up an X ray on the computer to show or whether they took like the little one that we've got hanging in the front, then take them out and shrug alright your curve should be that way. You've got to curve that way. This means we need you here at least 3 times a week for the next 12 months. Perfect example so we can get you get your curve back in. They will be using that as a fear mongering thing and saying yep not exactly the same as what Shermain said, if you don't if we don't get this under control, we don't get your curve back, you're going to have continuous issues with sleeping you're going to have, you're not going to be able to breathe. They will be using everything what we said, can be problematic as a result they will be using as an excuse as to why you should be coming in three to four times a week.

SHERMAIN [10:32]

However, that said, in order to make that change for them, so we need spinal leveling program, as well as spinal orthotics program then we it's almost a hybrid. It's literally everything it is has got to be a hybrid of treatment and as well as homework. Yeah, the biggest change usually comes in the homework phase. So a spine like those two but what can a person do what they can do is to roll up a towel.

SHERMAIN [11:12]

So, roll up a towel, like so. And lie flat on your back and place it right at the bottom of your neck right here.

Okay, the bottom of the head, the bottom of your neck. So the person would be Yeah, and will sleep in a extension pattern or not so much really, if you can tolerate it, well, if you can't tolerate it you just rest on it and that will create a lot of lengthening of the anterior chain of your neck muscles, and also allowing your jaw to relax. A lot of people with this kind of neck issues usually also complain about jaw pain and sleep apnea.

Oh no sorry. Sleep grinding, grinding their teeth.

And they come up with very tight jaws as well? Okay, so that's all for today and take care of yourselves. Bye.

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